
We are just relaying a letter that is floating around the Internet regarding Carter Whitelow and the artist Jay Electronica. Below is the letter in quotes. Don't know if I personally believe it and it certainly is not the view of the9elements.com staff. Just passing along an interesting letter that is sure to spark a response from Jay Electronica....at least we hope.
September 19, 2010
Carter Whitelow
Voir Dire Enlightenment Project LLC
Richmond, VA 23236
To Whom It May Concern,
If you have taken time out of your lives for this letter, you love hip hop. In the best interests of all hip hop consumers and connoisseurs, I have decided to come forward and admit that I wrote songs that have been used by Jay Electronica.
This situation is hard for me to speak about because this was my life. As a writer, you always strive to put every piece of your soul into your work, and I strive to achieve that with every work I create. However, I am a Hip Hop fan first and foremost. I dreamed of a day where the nature of hip hop would revert back to the moments where an emcee is an artist and not a commodity. My original works were to be a testament to every kid that was dealing with drugs, loss, and an unfortunate situation. Unfortunately, my message has been skewed over the past several years. This was the last time I could stand aside and let fans of my craft be dissapointed for no apparent reason. Let me first detail how Act II, or what Jay Electronica and the blogosphere call Act I, came to existence.
When I was a senior in high school in 2002, I started writing a full length novel called Act I. It is a memoir detailing my life at the time; partying, weed smoking, all of the things that wayward kids do. It was my plan to release the book in a double book format, along with a poetry/rhyme book. The poetry book was called Act II: The Life and Times of Carter Whitelow. In this book, I detailed my alter ego, called Trademark Legacy, aka the Black Adam. During the years of 2002-2006, I continued to hone my craft and finish both handwritten documents. My plan was to have the books published, however something called me to rap.
I attended George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia from 2002-2005 off and on. I just knew that the things I was writing would make me famous. You know when you have something that is just undeniable. It was like the words were just falling out of my pen. In full disclosure, I was in the deep throws of several addictions, including xanax, weed, codeine, X. Just a recipe for death really. I was heavily influenced by Eminem at the time, and I was watching a Behind the Music on him one night. A music critic said that the one thing that set Eminem apart was his use of syllables and rhyme structure. The entire piece was meant to recreate the syllable, rhyme structure and cadence of an Eminem album. I studied all of his songs, as well as Pac, Rakim, Jay-Z, Pharoahe Monch, Talib Kweli, and Nas. I would stay up all night, trying to figure out why they said things where they said them, and how I could frame my story in a similar manner. I wanted to be a hybrid of all the great rappers of the time. The heartbreak of the recent death of my father, as well as a failed relationship led me to create what was called Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
I started Eternal Sunshine in 2004, during the first wave of the crunk-downsouth revival. It was a song that was meant for people to use to cope with the struggles of anything you were going through in life. Just erase your mind. The original premise of the first verse was supposed to be a message to my ex girlfriend at the time. Hence the line “She said she never fell in love with a superman”. I referenced the Eminem song here due to her admiration of the song. The rest of the song was coming together like a novel of my mind at the time. I was a Catholic that had lost faith, studying buddhism, islam, and hinduism. I would keep references from these religions near me, and literally look at the works, and make a rhyme. This was the entire strategy that I would attack songs with early on. I would say a couple of lines about my personal experiences, and spit some religion. If you read the second stanza of Eternal, I detail my personal struggle to overcome the pain of my ex girlfriend. All of these songs were crafted in the Metro station in Suitland, Maryland through D.C., to Fairfax, Virginia. This is also why the majority of the songs that I wrote contained a reference to trains. I would have to hop the gates to get in and out just to get where I needed to go. “if my skull was cracked, and blood ran down to the culdesac, that could not match me where im at/ my memories flash me there and back” was a direct reference to when I lived in a cul de sac and I gushed my head open as a child. You get the picture. I could go on all day about the nuts and bolts of every lyric I wrote, I’ll get to how I BELIEVE Jay Electronica acquired my lyrics.
I have been advised by legal council not to divulge individuals names that are not of public domain. For that reason, I will call this person John Finate. I met John Finate during my first year at George Mason. I knew this kid was rich and had connections, but I didnt know he loved hip hop. We would hang out and make beats on his MPC-4000, smoke a little and chill, you know. I would carry my books with me like a nomad, and anything that I saw, I would write about it. We would always go from D.C. up 95 to New Jersey, where his family stayed. He would always tell me, “Man, when we go up here, were goin to RocaFella, Def Jam, all of that”. I thinkin that this white kid must be crazy. What I came to realize is that we dont see the real mechanics of the industry from the sideline. This kid was connected through a major electronic company. John and I were initially trying to shop beats, like the broke mans Neptunes. We made some quick sloppies and were trying to get our foot in the door. In the back of my mind im thinking we will get kicked out like DJ Jazzy Jeff on Fresh Prince. John says his name at the desk and in no time we went straight up to the Def Jam Office. They were still changing over from the RocaFella acquisition so there was more ROC than anything up there. I was starstruck, walking around rubbing shoulders with Biggs, it was crazy. We meet an A&R who no longer is employed with Def Jam, and John and I give him our CD. He gives us the obligatory, “Oh yeah yall are just here cause your somebody’s kid” look, grabs it and moves on. Im thinking we finally made it, when he probably just waited until we walked out and trashed it. Regardless, we carried on like we were gonna start a Production unit. I kept writing, assuming that the in-road I just made would lead to something. As most artist soon realize in the industry, just because you know someone does not mean you are ‘A Go’.
Off and on for three years John and I went up to New York, sometimes to chill, sometimes to work. In January 2006, I left George Mason and I left my book with John, telling him to shop it for me when he went back up north. I moved to Richmond, VA, and he promised me he would ‘look out’. That was the end of the book as I knew it, and the beginning of where we are now.
For four years, I just forgot about rapping and writing. I really truly felt that if I couldnt make it, then I didnt want to do it anymore. I just listened to old Reflection Eternal, Pac, Jay Z, so on and so forth. I just listened to enough new rap to get me through the club nights. I found myself listening to garbage just to stay culturally relevant. I started school at VCU, got clean from the pills and concentrated on actually getting my degree. Throughout this entire period, my brother Taylor was heavy into the blogs and hip hop news sites. He kept telling me, “Yo, listen to this Jay Electronica *****, man hes the realist.” As a hip hop fan, I couldnt tell you how many times Ive heard this rapper or that rapper was hot, so I just brushed it off. He wasnt on the radio for the hour I listened to it, so I didnt care. Finally, on January 19, 2010, I was outside doing yardwork and we were listening to Wiz. He says, “Man, Wiz is hot, but that ***** Jay Electronica is like top five in the game.” I finally buckled and went to Vuze and downloaded his catalogue.
The first thing I initially noticed was that Jay Electronica’s song titles were eerily similar to the ones I wrote about. You know how you get this feeling when you meet someone again after a long period of time. You know you know them. I was reading the thread and song titles on what he called ACT:I, and I am shaking my head thinking I must be crazy. I just downloaded it along with some mixtapes, and went to work. I thought it was weird that some random cat was thinking the same way I was thinking, and I was hyped. I was so ready to hear some real hip hop for a change. I got home that night, plugged my headphones in, and started vibing. The first song I heard was ‘Extra Extra’. Mind you the title is THE EXACT SAME as it was in the book. I crank it and Im bobbing my head just chilling, listening to the beat a little. Then I start hearing the words and I couldnt believe what I was hearing. This dude is rapping about the same things, in the same cadence and structure that I used to. When I listen to mixtapes, I give it that obligatory minute, then I move on to the next song. I brushed it off, got halfway through the song and moved on. The next thing I heard was Uzi Weighs a Ton. I listened closely for 15 seconds to the lyrics, and I was picking up on what he was saying before he said it. I sat up in my bed, and I was looking around like someone had died. This man got one of my songs. Or so I thought.
I looked at my iPhone and I was stunned. I skipped to the song Girlfriend...I heard one 8 and I took off my headphones and screamed. Theres another one. By this time Im half hyped, and half panicked. Im happy to hear my songs, I couldnt believe it. On the other hand Im trying to figure out how this even happened. I look back at all of my files, I see all of my books that I have from that era, but not ACT II. I knew at that precise moment what had happened, I got ‘got’. I went online and started researching who Jay Electronica was. I noticed that he was affiliated with a producer that John had been in contact with. I was stunned to think that someone really made it in the industry with my rhymes, and that someone would actually use my personal experiences. I looked at the lyrics on a message board, and it was confirmed. I am Jay Electronica.
The first person I called was John, who is now a UAE/ USA party promoter. I call him and ask him if he knows anything about Jay Electronica. He lives in New York, was deep in the game, and said “I dont even know who Jay Electronica is...” My mind went from ‘This a mistake’ to ‘OK, I see whats going on’. I told John to get in contact with his old connects, and tell them to contact me. I also contacted Jay Electronica the only way I knew how; through Twitter. I wanted to reach out and complete the project that everyone wanted. ‘Act II’, I read, was supposed to come out in 2008 or 2009. I found out in January 2010, and for a solid month I reach out through every channel I know how. I tried contacting all of the people affiliated with him, to no avail. I read that he was doing legitimate shows, making money off of it for several years. Honestly I was mad and frustrated. I cant even finish the job that I wanted to do, and this guy is ruining everything I was trying to create. His buzz was dying and all I could do is sit back and watch him squander my vision. On the 22nd of January, I sent a direct message to Jay Electronica, urging his representation to meet with me. No discussion. The only problem is that I duplicate songs in several books, some of which contain songs that are in ‘ACT II the book’. My legal council told me that now he cant release a song from that book, or he will take a chance that the song he chooses will be one I have. Thats why, since early this year in my opinion, you havent heard anything that resembles the Jay Electronica you thought you knew.
I have not accused anyone of any malice, I am just stating what I know to be a fact. I cannot tell you how Jay Electronica acquired my book. I can tell you that he did have the book, and I can also tell you that I have songs in that book that have yet to be released.
In closing, I would like to say that you, the reader, dont have to believe this. You can go on believing that this album will one day happen. Maybe now it will. You can have your theories and ideas as to why this is occuring. But I promise you, it wont be from the same person that wrote the Eternal Sunshine. I hope you understand why I had to come forward at this stage, and I wish Jay Electronica the best in his career.
Enclosed is a link to the follow up to what I have written before. Link To BASE B.A.S.E. is the natural progression, lyrically, of what you have heard in the past. Listen to my rhyme structure and compare the new 2010 Jay Electronica with B.A.S.E. Then go back and listen to Act I and tell me what you think. I will not stand back and let real hip hop die. Open your mind and listen. Take The Oath.
Sincerely,
Carter Whitelow
Voir Dire Enlightenment Project LLC
voirdire.bandcamp.com
Straight conspiracy theory shit right here.. Damn Jay you really spitting someone else;s life?
LMAO LMAO IF this is true LMAO
Haha, this is retarded. Jay mentioned Erykah Badu in one of his songs - you telling me this nobody wrote that rhyme too, huh?
^^^
so he can put his old lady's name in one song and you calling this retarted? Wake the fuck up, son.
Wow. He need to start getting high again because that new ish is dung.
this is a load, I had a listen and his flow isn't the same. even the lyrical content isn't the same - There is a certain subtle quality to jay electronica's lyrics (I'm thinking departure) and this guy just doesn't know how to to it. I don't believe this. This looks like somebody trying to push their fucking mixtape. If any of you guys know hip-hop and have an ear for rhyme structure and lyricism you would know that the same man didn't write Act 1. This guy is a big phony.
This guy is awful. Great try, though.
Wow man whoever told you this was a good idea was a fucking idiot. You will be forever scorned by true hip-hop fans. Pathetic trying to steal anothers mans shine.
Well, If this is true please sell the rest of your material to Jay. Your flow made me want to cut myself. Your flow is so poor I couldn't even listen to your lyrics. I fucking cringed through the first 30 seconds of your first track.
Well, If this is true please sell the rest of your material to Jay. Your flow made me want to cut myself. Your flow is so poor I couldn't even understand your lyrics. I fucking cringed through the first 30 seconds of your first track. * Fixed.
1. It was a book, not a tape - so its possible that Jay could deliver it differently. As a writer, I can tell you for a fact that people don't really understand cadence or style - until they do performance poetry or rap, in front a crowd. That said, its equally difficult to deliver a song that is written, but without beats, without any contact with the original author. Its possible that Jay imagined certain lines as soft and slow, where the original author wrote them as screams or cries. Not hard to believe at all. Lastly, the guy that produced these beats and the one that produced Jay's beats are different - so the songs will sound different.
2. Jay. This is sounding hella suspect. If this guy can produce just ONE original copy of one of these songs in writing in a form that can be authenticated, you're fucked.
3. I was just telling my wife that Jay was taking way too fucking long and that something was "wrong".
4. Finally, if its true - produce the books. Fast. Or we fucking you up at all your shows. Only warning kid. lol
^ Understandable, that he could have delivered it differently , but this guy can't match that what was Eternal Sunshine. You need natural flow to write a good verse - that lends itself to delivery. Which you as a writer should understand. He wouldn't be able to so consistently write good guest verses if he himself wasn't a talented poet.I think that Exhibit C is enough evidence that Jay is the same writer as the one in Eternal Sunshine. I don't think Jay Electronica is sounding suspect, the guy has always been slow at releasing material. nothing new.
The songs you mentioned aren't even on "Eternal Sunshine..."
#upoutmyfaceboy
And word. He's ALWAYS been slow with releasing shit.
this guy is a terrible piece of shit rapper trying to start drama like a little bitch because he cant write nice rhymes. im fucking mad at this little bitch because he delayed act II. stfu and stop whining. you rhymes suck and your shit sounds nothing like jay electronica. even if he stole your rhymes your voice is wack and your delivery is wack.
Seriously??
In the words of Jay Electronica, his "train is running on schedule!" Maybe you should quit hopping train gates and stop trying to bandwagon! Wait your turn dude! Your train is on schedule too....Your train schedule has been posted...based on your rhyme skills, your train has been cancelled. Please check back for new time and date!
BTW....
Have you ever written about the effects of some of those drugs you once took? ...you're DELUSIONAL!!! GTFOH!!!
listening to this guys rhyme structure i think it actually is very similar. the first song from his mixtape doesn't sound like act i but all the other songs do sound similar in structure. sure his voice is different and of course the beats are different but listen to the structure and subject matter, its the same.
the reason there are so many mentions of trains is because there's lots of mentions of them in the movie... duh
Damn!
I love Aretha Franklin! Many of her songs are relateable to many of my life's experiences. Often times I feel as if both her and Lauryn Hill have walked in my own shoes and have taken my personal situations and put them into songs! I lost one of my diary's years ago, but I certainly don't feel as if they stole it and built a successful singing career based on my writings! Shit, the reason people are passionate about music and artist is because of the relateability! We're passionate about what hits our individual spirit. Whitelowe, or whomever sounds more like a groupie trying to get on....as a matter of fact, that is what he is!!!! What better way to get your name out there than to try and assasinate someone else's talent. It's quite pitiful and distasteful to say the least! and the negative energy that people put into it is soooo wasteful. Why are many of you taking your time accomplishing what needs to be done in your life? whatever the reason, you're ready whenever the F you're ready, right? So, trust that jay is working within the time frame that he feels comfortable with. Don't use the fact that he hasn't put new music out as validity to dismiss his gift of writing! It may not be according to your wants, but this is his life, his gift, his art, his craft, his timing, his right!
Carter Whitelow vanished like the wind but for some reason his website blog is still posting updates. http://midnightrevolt.com/
You guys bad mouthing Carter Whitelow and only listened to the first track are dumb. You need to listen to the whole thing before you make your verdict. Also beats play a good part of Jays ambiance if Just Blaze helped Carter with his beats best believe all you haters would be on the scrotum!!! Also have you guys listened to Carters song Madness??? That song is sick. I haven't stopped listening to it since I downloaded. F Jay Electronica don't you know people help rhymers make their rhyme fit in certain areas of the song if anything these ghostwriters restructure the whole rhyme like a totally new song. I believe Jay stole a lot of Carters stuff. I didn't believe it until Hot 97 was getting mad at Carter for saying that. Why would Kay Slay get mad if it was a lie?
Carter Whitelow released his album on Bandcamp Sep 11, 2010, and then this letter on Sep 19, 2010. 8 days later.
Correlation, or causation?
Sounds like homeboy (whose rhymes on his bandcamp page come nothing close to Jay E, especially not the stuff Mr. Whitelow claims to have written) is looking for some pr to jumpstart his career. Not unlike Janet Jackson's 2003 wardrobe "malfunction," preceding the release of her new album by a matter of days, or Kanye West's well-known "Imma let you finish" incident that sparked a new level of fame for "victim" Taylor Swift.
This Whitelow cat is a creep. If he really is holding back the release of ACT II, let him show the books he wrote.
The fact that he actually advertises his new album at the end of the letter is more than suspicious.
Fucking hilarious if you guys think this cat wrote lines let alone verses for Jay Electronica. Here are some obvious differences not relating to production quality: 1. Just listen to the rhyme scheme; No diagnol or slant rhymes. 2. The lines are too fucking obvious when he raps he spells out the message he's trying to convey to you "don't wear chains, fuck the US Government, fuck Glenn Beck" Now listen to Jay electronica no blatant references to the state of our country, but instead references to stories in the bible, old mythology, and Lines relating directly to happenings in his life. Ex: getting signed to Roc Nation, or his best friend dying. 3.If you need any more reasoning he doesn't plan out his lines nearly as well there is no syllable watch. So you guys can believe this, but it's just a funny publicity stunt. I actually find him a pretty good rapper but I can;t listen to him now. Sorry man I would've spread if you if it wasn't for this. DON"T TRY TO RIDE COATTAILS!!!!!!
hey 5:33PM October 8th, 2011
Where is Act 2? If Act 2 never appears, will you backtrack at all? Just wondering. Because so far, I am getting the feeling that what this man is saying is partially true. What if Act 2 is so jumbled with plagiarism, he can't release it?Stranger things have happened.